From john at maxum.com Fri Nov 11 08:12:53 2011 From: john at maxum.com (John O'Fallon) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:12:53 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumpus 7.1.4 Message-ID: <08A34DFC-D39B-4E12-AAB1-FB6012AE2B71@maxum.com> A fairly significant maintenance update is now available, Rumpus 7.1.4: http://www.maxum.com/Rumpus/Download.html The full list of updates is included below. Perhaps the main reason to upgrade is that version 7.1.4 will be required in order to run a new desktop application that will be available as a "beta" release next week. If you use drop shipping so that users within your organization can send files to outside users, stay tuned... John Rumpus 7.1.4 ------------ On the "Blocked Clients" window, buttons have been added to allow for sorting and normalization of IP addresses in both the blocked and allowed lists. When the FTP Root folder is changed, Rumpus will now offer to automatically update user Home Folders accordingly. The "UseDefaultHostInDropShipURLs NO" configuration option now applies to both Drop Ship URLs and File Request URLs. The "find files" option now works more reliably when search terms include non-ASCII characters. A bug has been corrected that could cause a server crash in rare cases where File Requests are used to upload files. The new Multi-File Selection upload function is now also applied to File Request uploads. Added support for desktop drop shipping. From jck at pannier.com Fri Nov 11 10:39:53 2011 From: jck at pannier.com (Kovach, Jon C.) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:39:53 +0000 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumpus 7.1.4 In-Reply-To: <08A34DFC-D39B-4E12-AAB1-FB6012AE2B71@maxum.com> Message-ID: John, How do I utilize desktop drop shipping? Thanks, Jon On 11/11/11 11:12 AM, "John O'Fallon" wrote: >A fairly significant maintenance update is now available, Rumpus 7.1.4: > > http://www.maxum.com/Rumpus/Download.html > >The full list of updates is included below. Perhaps the main reason to >upgrade is that version 7.1.4 will be required in order to run a new >desktop application that will be available as a "beta" release next week. > If you use drop shipping so that users within your organization can send >files to outside users, stay tuned... > >John > > >Rumpus 7.1.4 >------------ > >On the "Blocked Clients" window, buttons have been added to allow for >sorting and normalization of IP addresses in both the blocked and allowed >lists. > >When the FTP Root folder is changed, Rumpus will now offer to >automatically update user Home Folders accordingly. > >The "UseDefaultHostInDropShipURLs NO" configuration option now applies to >both Drop Ship URLs and File Request URLs. > >The "find files" option now works more reliably when search terms include >non-ASCII characters. > >A bug has been corrected that could cause a server crash in rare cases >where File Requests are used to upload files. > >The new Multi-File Selection upload function is now also applied to File >Request uploads. > >Added support for desktop drop shipping. > > >_______________________________________________ >Rumpus-Talk mailing list >Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com >http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk > From john at maxum.com Fri Nov 11 11:05:51 2011 From: john at maxum.com (John O'Fallon) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:05:51 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumpus 7.1.4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54AF5F2F-6E0D-4791-B0A5-47B2EE1B65B3@maxum.com> This is a new feature that I'll post details on next week. John On Nov 11, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Kovach, Jon C. wrote: > How do I utilize desktop drop shipping? From marc.wilge at printsolutions.lu Sat Nov 12 00:44:13 2011 From: marc.wilge at printsolutions.lu (WILGE Marc I print solutions I) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:44:13 +0100 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumpus 7.1.4 In-Reply-To: <08A34DFC-D39B-4E12-AAB1-FB6012AE2B71@maxum.com> References: <08A34DFC-D39B-4E12-AAB1-FB6012AE2B71@maxum.com> Message-ID: Dear John, hope the new Desktop App will be Multi Plattform! :-) Regards Marc -- Marc Wilg? print solutions s.? r.l. 113, avenue Gaston Diderich L-1420 Luxembourg tel : (+352) 26 45 91 93 - 88 fax : (+352) 26 45 95 67 mobile : (+352) 621 155 335 www.printsolutions.lu <-- visit our new site On 11 Nov 2011, at 17:12, "John O'Fallon" wrote: > A fairly significant maintenance update is now available, Rumpus 7.1.4: > > http://www.maxum.com/Rumpus/Download.html > > The full list of updates is included below. Perhaps the main reason to upgrade is that version 7.1.4 will be required in order to run a new desktop application that will be available as a "beta" release next week. If you use drop shipping so that users within your organization can send files to outside users, stay tuned... > > John > > > Rumpus 7.1.4 > ------------ > > On the "Blocked Clients" window, buttons have been added to allow for sorting and normalization of IP addresses in both the blocked and allowed lists. > > When the FTP Root folder is changed, Rumpus will now offer to automatically update user Home Folders accordingly. > > The "UseDefaultHostInDropShipURLs NO" configuration option now applies to both Drop Ship URLs and File Request URLs. > > The "find files" option now works more reliably when search terms include non-ASCII characters. > > A bug has been corrected that could cause a server crash in rare cases where File Requests are used to upload files. > > The new Multi-File Selection upload function is now also applied to File Request uploads. > > Added support for desktop drop shipping. > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk From matthew at worldaccent.com Mon Nov 14 05:39:45 2011 From: matthew at worldaccent.com (Matthew Wallis) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:39:45 +0000 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumpus 7.1.4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes that would be good. > -----Original Message----- > From: rumpus-talk-bounces at maxum.com > [mailto:rumpus-talk-bounces at maxum.com] On Behalf Of WILGE > Marc I print solutions I > Sent: 12 November 2011 08:44 > To: Rumpus-Talk > Subject: Re: [Rumpus-talk] Rumpus 7.1.4 > > Dear John, > > hope the new Desktop App will be Multi Plattform! :-) > > Regards > Marc > -- > Marc Wilg? > > print solutions s.? r.l. > 113, avenue Gaston Diderich > L-1420 Luxembourg > > tel : (+352) 26 45 91 93 - 88 > fax : (+352) 26 45 95 67 > mobile : (+352) 621 155 335 > > www.printsolutions.lu <-- visit our new site > > On 11 Nov 2011, at 17:12, "John O'Fallon" wrote: > > > A fairly significant maintenance update is now available, > Rumpus 7.1.4: > > > > http://www.maxum.com/Rumpus/Download.html > > > > The full list of updates is included below. Perhaps the > main reason to upgrade is that version 7.1.4 will be required > in order to run a new desktop application that will be > available as a "beta" release next week. If you use drop > shipping so that users within your organization can send > files to outside users, stay tuned... > > > > John > > > > > > Rumpus 7.1.4 > > ------------ > > > > On the "Blocked Clients" window, buttons have been added to > allow for sorting and normalization of IP addresses in both > the blocked and allowed lists. > > > > When the FTP Root folder is changed, Rumpus will now offer > to automatically update user Home Folders accordingly. > > > > The "UseDefaultHostInDropShipURLs NO" configuration option > now applies to both Drop Ship URLs and File Request URLs. > > > > The "find files" option now works more reliably when search > terms include non-ASCII characters. > > > > A bug has been corrected that could cause a server crash in > rare cases where File Requests are used to upload files. > > > > The new Multi-File Selection upload function is now also > applied to File Request uploads. > > > > Added support for desktop drop shipping. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk > > _______________________________________________ > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk > > From jck at pannier.com Mon Nov 14 05:45:43 2011 From: jck at pannier.com (Kovach, Jon C.) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:45:43 +0000 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumpus 7.1.4 In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC8196910EB@Mail.pannier.corporate> Any chance of an Android app coming out? For us lowly non-iPhone users...? ________________________________________ From: Matthew Wallis [matthew at worldaccent.com] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 8:39 AM To: Rumpus-Talk Subject: Re: [Rumpus-talk] Rumpus 7.1.4 Yes that would be good. > -----Original Message----- > From: rumpus-talk-bounces at maxum.com > [mailto:rumpus-talk-bounces at maxum.com] On Behalf Of WILGE > Marc I print solutions I > Sent: 12 November 2011 08:44 > To: Rumpus-Talk > Subject: Re: [Rumpus-talk] Rumpus 7.1.4 > > Dear John, > > hope the new Desktop App will be Multi Plattform! :-) > > Regards > Marc > -- > Marc Wilg? > > print solutions s.? r.l. > 113, avenue Gaston Diderich > L-1420 Luxembourg > > tel : (+352) 26 45 91 93 - 88 > fax : (+352) 26 45 95 67 > mobile : (+352) 621 155 335 > > www.printsolutions.lu <-- visit our new site > > On 11 Nov 2011, at 17:12, "John O'Fallon" wrote: > > > A fairly significant maintenance update is now available, > Rumpus 7.1.4: > > > > http://www.maxum.com/Rumpus/Download.html > > > > The full list of updates is included below. Perhaps the > main reason to upgrade is that version 7.1.4 will be required > in order to run a new desktop application that will be > available as a "beta" release next week. If you use drop > shipping so that users within your organization can send > files to outside users, stay tuned... > > > > John > > > > > > Rumpus 7.1.4 > > ------------ > > > > On the "Blocked Clients" window, buttons have been added to > allow for sorting and normalization of IP addresses in both > the blocked and allowed lists. > > > > When the FTP Root folder is changed, Rumpus will now offer > to automatically update user Home Folders accordingly. > > > > The "UseDefaultHostInDropShipURLs NO" configuration option > now applies to both Drop Ship URLs and File Request URLs. > > > > The "find files" option now works more reliably when search > terms include non-ASCII characters. > > > > A bug has been corrected that could cause a server crash in > rare cases where File Requests are used to upload files. > > > > The new Multi-File Selection upload function is now also > applied to File Request uploads. > > > > Added support for desktop drop shipping. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk > > _______________________________________________ > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk > > _______________________________________________ Rumpus-Talk mailing list Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk From dlebolt1 at gmail.com Mon Nov 14 06:19:14 2011 From: dlebolt1 at gmail.com (Dave Lebolt) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:19:14 -0800 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Assistance with Lion Server and reverse proxy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <041601BE-6290-4FD5-8E09-5492568340DA@gmail.com> Thanks for you advice, John. I did solve this problem by using vhost, and used the redirect command in Apache to avoid the user having to enter ?:8000? for Rumpus' URL. This worked well. Dave On Nov 14, 2011, at 5:45 AM, rumpus-talk-request at maxum.com wrote: > From: John Welch > Subject: Re: [Rumpus-talk] Assistance with Lion Server and reverse proxy > Date: October 25, 2011 4:43:15 PM PDT > To: Rumpus-Talk > Reply-To: Rumpus-Talk > > > On 10/25/11 11:33 AM, "Dave Lebolt" wrote: > > Hi Folks, > I?m a Rumpus and IT admin newbie for my small company and just got MacMini Lion Server up and running with Rumpus. I?d like to use a single IP address to access port 80 for both Rumpus WFM (via port 8000) and the Lion Server Wiki. I?ve seen info about using reverse proxy with Apache 2.x to set things so that a subdomain (e.g., ?files.RumpusProxySubdomain.com?) will direct all port 8000 traffic to Rumpus, while the normal subdomain (e.g., ?server.myMainServerName.com?) continues to receive messages. > > You don't really need to deal with the reverse proxy IIRC if you just want stuff to work on port 8000. That's just adding another site to the server on port 8000 and having all the URLs for it read "http://www.server.com:8000/" > > The problems you run into are people never remembering the different port, and overly paranoid firewalls not allowing it. You're far better off just setting up a vhost for port 80 for Rumpus. > > -- > john welch > the / zimmerman / agency > 850.668.2222 > jwelch at zimmerman.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at maxum.com Mon Nov 14 06:36:06 2011 From: john at maxum.com (John O'Fallon) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:36:06 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumpus 7.1.4 In-Reply-To: <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC8196910EB@Mail.pannier.corporate> References: , <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC8196910EB@Mail.pannier.corporate> Message-ID: The problem with external applications like the mobile app and the upcoming drop ship applet is the multi-platform issue. Maintaining FileWatch, the mobile app, etc. on multiple platforms is really difficult. So for any specific function, a Web-based interface is always preferred, since that gives us cross-platform support automatically. For example, in Rumpus 7.2, FileWatch will essentially be made part of the Web admin interface, giving Windows users access to that functionality. The multi-platform issue is the reason there hasn't been a drop ship applet up to now. I finally succumbed, though, because a Web interface just can't be made to be as quick and simple as a desktop application. A windows version is definitely on the radar and is a strong possibility (even in the fairly short term), but the first Beta, at least, will be Mac only. As for an Android app... That's also on the table, and there is a long-term plan for one. But in the short term, I would expect to see improved Web-based administration support rather than a dedicated android app. Ultimately, this will provide virtually identical functionality for Android, Windows, and Mac administrators, with the main drawback being a slightly more cumbersome interface (since it'll be Web-based). John On Nov 14, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Kovach, Jon C. wrote: > Any chance of an Android app coming out? > For us lowly non-iPhone users...? -------------------------------------------------------- Maxum Development http://www.maxum.com/ Rumpus: The Premier File Transfer Server For Mac OS X. -------------------------------------------------------- From john at maxum.com Tue Nov 15 08:23:37 2011 From: john at maxum.com (John O'Fallon) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:23:37 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.9 Message-ID: <94C72205-2F0B-4F3A-A8DB-4506CD20AC78@maxum.com> The first beta release of the new Rumpus drop ship desktop application, Rumplet 0.9, is now available. Rumplet is designed to make it really easy for local users to drop ship files to outside people. In addition, it allows users to resend previously sent URLs, delete previous drop shipments, and extend the time period in which past shipments will remain valid. Rumplet requires a Rumpus server running version 7.1.4 or later, and an Intel Mac running OS X 10.5 or later on the client. I hope to include PPC support for the "1.0" release. The software has been tested extensively on OS X 10.6 and 10.7, but not 10.5. If you run Rumplet on an Intel Mac running OS X 10.5, please send in a report to confirm that it works as expected. Here is the direct download link: http://www.maxum.com/Rumplet09.zip The package includes complete documentation, and everything described in the docs should work perfectly. I'm sure there are additional features that will be added, but as it stands Rumplet does everything planned for version 1.0 and there are no known bugs. If you'd like to see how Rumplet works, you can view/download the documentation (which includes screen shots) here: http://www.maxum.com/Rumplet.pdf As always, post comments, questions or problem reports to the list (for comments of general interest) or directly to me at "support at maxum.com" (for issues specific to your setup or requirements). If you try Rumplet, please send a report, even if it's just to say, "yep, works great." Thanks! John PS - Note that, for testing, the "password" preferences field is currently plain text. This is only to make troubleshooting potential connection problems in the beta release easier, and will be changed for version 1.0 so that the password is obscured. From nate.kondrick at masterswitchit.com Wed Nov 16 09:47:51 2011 From: nate.kondrick at masterswitchit.com (Nate Kondrick) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:47:51 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumpus and Active Directory integration Message-ID: Back when running Mac OS X 10.4.11, I was able to join my mac server to Active Directory and have Rumpus authenticate through AD via the Open Directory integration in Rumpus. Now I've got a server running 10.7.2, and Rumpus no longer seems to properly authenticate to AD via Open Directory. I went back and tested this with Mac OS X 10.5.8 and 10.6.8, and it doesn't seem to work with those versions either. Does anyone have Rumpus authenticating through Active Directory on 10.7? If so, how did you get it working? 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Version 7.2 isn't quite ready, even for closed Beta testing, but send me an e-mail ("support at maxum.com") and I'll let you know when I have a pre-release version you can use with the new OD support. If there is interest, I'll try to make a stable 7.2 beta build sooner, rather than later. Note that OD support in Rumpus 7.2 and later will require OS X 10.6 or later. It is also being made a "Pro" feature, since it allows for the Rumpus Standard 32 user limit to be exceeded. On the plus side, it will support OD groups, which is really useful. John On Nov 16, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Nate Kondrick wrote: > Back when running Mac OS X 10.4.11, I was able to join my mac server to Active Directory and have Rumpus authenticate through AD via the Open Directory integration in Rumpus. > > Now I've got a server running 10.7.2, and Rumpus no longer seems to properly authenticate to AD via Open Directory. I went back and tested this with Mac OS X 10.5.8 and 10.6.8, and it doesn't seem to work with those versions either. > > Does anyone have Rumpus authenticating through Active Directory on 10.7? If so, how did you get it working? > From tonye at machuset.se Wed Nov 16 10:14:04 2011 From: tonye at machuset.se (Tony Englund) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:14:04 +0100 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumpus and Active Directory integration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It doesn't seem to be possible yrt, but according to John it might be implemented quite soon as there's some new API's for AD communication in Lion. // Tony Englund MacHuset AB Skickat fr?n min iPhone 16 nov 2011 kl. 18:50 skrev "Nate Kondrick" : > Back when running Mac OS X 10.4.11, I was able to join my mac server to Active Directory and have Rumpus authenticate through AD via the Open Directory integration in Rumpus. > > Now I've got a server running 10.7.2, and Rumpus no longer seems to properly authenticate to AD via Open Directory. I went back and tested this with Mac OS X 10.5.8 and 10.6.8, and it doesn't seem to work with those versions either. > > Does anyone have Rumpus authenticating through Active Directory on 10.7? If so, how did you get it working? > > Thanks! > -- > Nate Kondrick | Systems Engineer | masterswitchIT > 79 13th Ave. Suite 219 | Minneapolis, MN 55413 > Mobile: (612) 812-0448 | Office: (612) 787-1000 | Fax: (612) 788-6369 > > _______________________________________________ > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomlangton at verizon.net Wed Nov 16 12:09:36 2011 From: tomlangton at verizon.net (Tom Langton) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:09:36 -0500 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.9 In-Reply-To: <94C72205-2F0B-4F3A-A8DB-4506CD20AC78@maxum.com> Message-ID: Very elegant. I will be putting into production for selected users tomorrow. Love the name. Tom Langton On 11/15/11 11:23 AM, "John O'Fallon" wrote: >The first beta release of the new Rumpus drop ship desktop application, >Rumplet 0.9, is now available. > >Rumplet is designed to make it really easy for local users to drop ship >files to outside people. In addition, it allows users to resend >previously sent URLs, delete previous drop shipments, and extend the time >period in which past shipments will remain valid. From john at maxum.com Wed Nov 16 12:49:51 2011 From: john at maxum.com (John O'Fallon) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:49:51 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48780E76-60DA-4D9D-8F65-4E5BD4D94CA1@maxum.com> Note that there is one significant bug that has been reported so far... URLs generated by Rumplet are missing a slash in the leading "http://". Most browsers will accept the URL anyway, but the URLs may not be clickable in an e-mail client. You can add the slash manually after pasting, or wait for Rumplet 0.91, due by Friday. Please report any other errors, bugs or problems before then so we can take care of any other issues in that release. As for the name... I'm on the fence. It's a silly name, but so is "Rumpus". ;^) By using "Rumplet", I'm embracing the silliness, but maybe it's too much. Tom counts as one vote in favor of "Rumplet". If anyone else has an opinion, feel free to let me know. John On Nov 16, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Tom Langton wrote: > Very elegant. I will be putting into production for selected users > tomorrow. > > Love the name. -------------------------------------------------------- Maxum Development http://www.maxum.com/ Rumpus: The Premier File Transfer Server For Mac OS X. -------------------------------------------------------- From jck at pannier.com Thu Nov 17 06:54:46 2011 From: jck at pannier.com (Kovach, Jon C.) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:54:46 +0000 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.9 In-Reply-To: <48780E76-60DA-4D9D-8F65-4E5BD4D94CA1@maxum.com> Message-ID: I'd like to cast another vote for Rumplet. It's a great name. Embrace the silliness. Jon On 11/16/11 3:49 PM, "John O'Fallon" wrote: >Note that there is one significant bug that has been reported so far... >URLs generated by Rumplet are missing a slash in the leading "http://". >Most browsers will accept the URL anyway, but the URLs may not be >clickable in an e-mail client. You can add the slash manually after >pasting, or wait for Rumplet 0.91, due by Friday. > >Please report any other errors, bugs or problems before then so we can >take care of any other issues in that release. > >As for the name... I'm on the fence. It's a silly name, but so is >"Rumpus". ;^) By using "Rumplet", I'm embracing the silliness, but >maybe it's too much. Tom counts as one vote in favor of "Rumplet". If >anyone else has an opinion, feel free to let me know. > >John > >On Nov 16, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Tom Langton wrote: > >> Very elegant. I will be putting into production for selected users >> tomorrow. >> >> Love the name. > >-------------------------------------------------------- > Maxum Development http://www.maxum.com/ > Rumpus: The Premier File Transfer Server For Mac OS X. >-------------------------------------------------------- > > >_______________________________________________ >Rumpus-Talk mailing list >Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com >http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk > From dave.rumpus at alfordmedia.com Thu Nov 17 07:43:24 2011 From: dave.rumpus at alfordmedia.com (Dave Pooser) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:43:24 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.9 In-Reply-To: <48780E76-60DA-4D9D-8F65-4E5BD4D94CA1@maxum.com> Message-ID: On 11/16/11 2:49 PM, "John O'Fallon" wrote: >As for the name... I'm on the fence. It's a silly name, but so is >"Rumpus". ;^) By using "Rumplet", I'm embracing the silliness, but >maybe it's too much. Please, for the love of all that's holy, NOT Rumplet! Some of us work in corporate environments and have to communicate with non-geeks about our installed software. I've already had to talk our VP of finance into sending a minion for training on Munki and Puppet ("Monkey puppets? Now you're just messing with me, right?") and explain to her that we're having difficulties with AD authentication in Rumpus ("So you're telling me that our primary means of transferring files to and from clients and freelancers is from _Where the Wild Things Are_?' Oddly appropriate, but still....") If I tell her that I'm trying to to put Rumplet on every laptop, I'm not sure if I'll end up terminated or merely fired. :^) -- Dave Pooser Manager of Information Services Alford Media http://www.alfordmedia.com From doningram at gmail.com Thu Nov 17 08:25:43 2011 From: doningram at gmail.com (Don Ingram) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:25:43 -0700 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.9 In-Reply-To: <48780E76-60DA-4D9D-8F65-4E5BD4D94CA1@maxum.com> References: <48780E76-60DA-4D9D-8F65-4E5BD4D94CA1@maxum.com> Message-ID: Embrace the sillness. From stephenfeber at me.com Thu Nov 17 09:07:37 2011 From: stephenfeber at me.com (Stephen Feber) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:07:37 +0000 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.9 In-Reply-To: References: <48780E76-60DA-4D9D-8F65-4E5BD4D94CA1@maxum.com> Message-ID: <602C1717-9645-4A01-894E-F7DC57E025A1@me.com> You have to think who John is selling to..... most people running Rumpus are tech people at some level. I'm not in fact but one of the good things about the product is that we've been able to set up a reliable FTP system which we use a lot and is easy to administer. So - I don't think it actually matters about the name. As John said Rumpus is a pretty daft name anyway, so Rumplet seems fine..... Stephen Feber On 17 Nov 2011, at 16:25, Don Ingram wrote: > Embrace the sillness. > _______________________________________________ > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk From john at maxum.com Thu Nov 17 09:51:18 2011 From: john at maxum.com (John O'Fallon) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:51:18 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.9 In-Reply-To: <602C1717-9645-4A01-894E-F7DC57E025A1@me.com> References: <48780E76-60DA-4D9D-8F65-4E5BD4D94CA1@maxum.com> <602C1717-9645-4A01-894E-F7DC57E025A1@me.com> Message-ID: Thanks, everyone, for feedback on the name. Having a short, simple name makes talking about the application easier. (I will regret to my dying day ever creating an option called "Allow Router To Perform Data Connection Address Mappings". Whew!) The name "Rumplet" fits the bill, and I'm leaning towards sticking with it. But Dave, I am also seriously considering an "Advanced Prefs" sheet that would allow you to change the window title and even the background image, so you could customize, and even brand, the applet any way you like. John From john at maxum.com Fri Nov 18 13:24:35 2011 From: john at maxum.com (John O'Fallon) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:24:35 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 Message-ID: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> Rumplet Beta testers, Rumplet 0.91 is now available here: http://www.maxum.com/Rumplet091.zip This version corrects the "slashes in the URL" problem, adds a note letting users know that they can drag additional files to send another shipment, and adds preferences so you can customize the name of the applet. The URL and text fixes are pretty obvious. To customize the applet name, choose "Preferences" from the "Rumplet" menu. The "App Name" will be used to replace the name "Rumplet" in the menu bar, and the "Main Window Title" will be displayed in the title bar of the main window. It's perfectly safe to change the name of the Rumplet application in the Finder. The background graphic isn't customizable, but may be in the future. Some of the other suggestions posted, notably auto-configuration and including the number of downloads of sent files, will require a corresponding update of the Rumpus server software. Expect to see these enhancements along with Rumpus 7.2. Keep the feedback coming... This version seems pretty stable and for people who do a lot of drop shipping, it's a pretty handy tool. Don't hesitate to give it a try. John From tomlangton at verizon.net Sat Nov 19 06:50:27 2011 From: tomlangton at verizon.net (Tom Langton) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:50:27 -0500 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 In-Reply-To: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> Message-ID: John, One small thing ? if you close the Rumplet window, the app remains active, but you can't re-open the window from a menu. I'd like to see the application quit when the window is closed (preferable to a menu item to reopen to the window which will befuddle my easily befuddled users). Also, don't see why the Edit, Format, View, and Window menus are available as they serve no function. Otherwise, a great addition to Rumpus capability and I see it easing Drop Ship implementation - much faster than opening the web page and going through "all those steps." Easier and simpler is way better for my users. Thanks again, Tom Langton On 11/18/11 4:24 PM, "John O'Fallon" wrote: >Rumplet Beta testers, Rumplet 0.91 is now available here: > > http://www.maxum.com/Rumplet091.zip > >This version corrects the "slashes in the URL" problem, adds a note >letting users know that they can drag additional files to send another >shipment, and adds preferences so you can customize the name of the >applet. > >The URL and text fixes are pretty obvious. To customize the applet name, >choose "Preferences" from the "Rumplet" menu. The "App Name" will be >used to replace the name "Rumplet" in the menu bar, and the "Main Window >Title" will be displayed in the title bar of the main window. It's >perfectly safe to change the name of the Rumplet application in the >Finder. The background graphic isn't customizable, but may be in the >future. > >Some of the other suggestions posted, notably auto-configuration and >including the number of downloads of sent files, will require a >corresponding update of the Rumpus server software. Expect to see these >enhancements along with Rumpus 7.2. > >Keep the feedback coming... This version seems pretty stable and for >people who do a lot of drop shipping, it's a pretty handy tool. Don't >hesitate to give it a try. > >John >_______________________________________________ >Rumpus-Talk mailing list >Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com >http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk From dlebolt1 at gmail.com Sun Nov 20 07:24:57 2011 From: dlebolt1 at gmail.com (Dave Lebolt) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 07:24:57 -0800 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 Feedback In-Reply-To: <0D1DDCA2-F778-447D-8D76-9F83D4784BE9@gmail.com> References: <0D1DDCA2-F778-447D-8D76-9F83D4784BE9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <96536C6E-A2E4-486A-9740-95E9584092FA@gmail.com> John, Rumplet seems a great idea and layout/design straightforward. Unfortunately, on my end, couldn?t get things working. Entering my standard server credentials resulted in the ?Unable to Log In? message that says that Drop Shipments are not enabled for my User Account, even though Drop Shipments are enabled in my account. My server is co-located and I use Remote Admin from my local machine. From the Rumplet documentation it appears that all other settings are identical to Remote Admin. I also double-checked firewall setup on both ends. We use SSL; perhaps the problem lies there. Feel free to contact me to see what?s up... The one thing I would change in the app is that passwords for the user account are listed in plain text; it feels like passwords entered should be hidden in the standard way with bullets as you type. As an alt, a checkbox to allow the password to be shown when typing (as per some Apple system dialogs) can be useful. Dave Lebolt From john at maxum.com Sun Nov 20 11:38:09 2011 From: john at maxum.com (John O'Fallon) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:38:09 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 Feedback In-Reply-To: <96536C6E-A2E4-486A-9740-95E9584092FA@gmail.com> References: <0D1DDCA2-F778-447D-8D76-9F83D4784BE9@gmail.com> <96536C6E-A2E4-486A-9740-95E9584092FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: To use Rumplet, the IP address (or subnet) needs to be entered as an "Allowed Client" on the "Remote Admin" tab of the Network Settings window. If you are certain that you've entered your user account name and password correctly, check that list to make sure your address appears. As for the plain text display of the password field... During Beta testing, it's plain text to help diagnose connection issues. In Rumplet 1.0, it will indeed be made an obscured field. John On Nov 20, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Dave Lebolt wrote: > Unfortunately, on my end, couldn?t get things working. Entering my standard server credentials resulted in the ?Unable to Log In? message that says that Drop Shipments are not enabled for my User Account, even though Drop Shipments are enabled in my account. My server is co-located and I use Remote Admin from my local machine. From the Rumplet documentation it appears that all other settings are identical to Remote Admin. I also double-checked firewall setup on both ends. We use SSL; perhaps the problem lies there. Feel free to contact me to see what?s up... > > The one thing I would change in the app is that passwords for the user account are listed in plain text; it feels like passwords entered should be hidden in the standard way with bullets as you type. As an alt, a checkbox to allow the password to be shown when typing (as per some Apple system dialogs) can be useful. From jck at pannier.com Mon Nov 21 13:29:56 2011 From: jck at pannier.com (Kovach, Jon C.) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 21:29:56 +0000 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 In-Reply-To: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> References: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> Message-ID: <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate> Wondering... Can I give Rumplet to my customers, so they can have a desktop app to upload files to us more easily than logging onto the FTP site? Or does the application need to be internal to where the FTP site is hosted? If I can, what server address do I put? My external IP address? Also, and you may have answered this already, but is there a PC version in the works? Jon ________________________________________ From: John O'Fallon [john at maxum.com] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 4:24 PM To: Rumpus-Talk Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 Rumplet Beta testers, Rumplet 0.91 is now available here: http://www.maxum.com/Rumplet091.zip This version corrects the "slashes in the URL" problem, adds a note letting users know that they can drag additional files to send another shipment, and adds preferences so you can customize the name of the applet. The URL and text fixes are pretty obvious. To customize the applet name, choose "Preferences" from the "Rumplet" menu. The "App Name" will be used to replace the name "Rumplet" in the menu bar, and the "Main Window Title" will be displayed in the title bar of the main window. It's perfectly safe to change the name of the Rumplet application in the Finder. The background graphic isn't customizable, but may be in the future. Some of the other suggestions posted, notably auto-configuration and including the number of downloads of sent files, will require a corresponding update of the Rumpus server software. Expect to see these enhancements along with Rumpus 7.2. Keep the feedback coming... This version seems pretty stable and for people who do a lot of drop shipping, it's a pretty handy tool. Don't hesitate to give it a try. John _______________________________________________ Rumpus-Talk mailing list Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk From john at maxum.com Mon Nov 21 13:54:29 2011 From: john at maxum.com (John O'Fallon) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:54:29 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 In-Reply-To: <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate> References: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate> Message-ID: An app that external clients can use to easily upload files is something that is under consideration, but I don't think Rumplet would fit the bill. The uploaded files aren't stored in the usual content folder, will generate drop ship records in Rumpus, and have other special processing that is different from that of general, end-user uploads. And while Rumplet can be used by external users, it's optimized for LAN transfers. Error reporting, for example, isn't as robust as it would need to be for 3rd party users. A Windows version isn't yet under development, but if the Mac version proves popular, it's a definite possibility. John On Nov 21, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Kovach, Jon C. wrote: > Can I give Rumplet to my customers, so they can have a desktop app to upload files to us more easily than logging onto the FTP site? Or does the application need to be internal to where the FTP site is hosted? If I can, what server address do I put? My external IP address? > > Also, and you may have answered this already, but is there a PC version in the works? -------------------------------------------------------- Maxum Development http://www.maxum.com/ Rumpus: The Premier File Transfer Server For Mac OS X. -------------------------------------------------------- From marc.wilge at printsolutions.lu Mon Nov 21 23:02:59 2011 From: marc.wilge at printsolutions.lu (WILGE Marc I print solutions I) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:02:59 +0100 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 In-Reply-To: <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate> References: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate> Message-ID: <6DDF01A0-D6CD-41FB-B420-F1AF3708739B@printsolutions.lu> having such a 'customer Rumplet' is a really good idea. A lot of customers even have problems using the http Site of Rumpus! regards Marc -- Marc Wilg? print solutions s.? r.l. 113, avenue Gaston Diderich L-1420 Luxembourg tel : (+352) 26 45 91 93 - 88 fax : (+352) 26 45 95 67 mobile : (+352) 621 155 335 www.printsolutions.lu ?We made the buttons on the screen look so good you?ll want to lick them.? Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011) On Nov 21, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Kovach, Jon C. wrote: > Wondering... > > Can I give Rumplet to my customers, so they can have a desktop app to upload files to us more easily than logging onto the FTP site? Or does the application need to be internal to where the FTP site is hosted? If I can, what server address do I put? My external IP address? > > Also, and you may have answered this already, but is there a PC version in the works? > > Jon > > > ________________________________________ > From: John O'Fallon [john at maxum.com] > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 4:24 PM > To: Rumpus-Talk > Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 > > Rumplet Beta testers, Rumplet 0.91 is now available here: > > http://www.maxum.com/Rumplet091.zip > > This version corrects the "slashes in the URL" problem, adds a note letting users know that they can drag additional files to send another shipment, and adds preferences so you can customize the name of the applet. > > The URL and text fixes are pretty obvious. To customize the applet name, choose "Preferences" from the "Rumplet" menu. The "App Name" will be used to replace the name "Rumplet" in the menu bar, and the "Main Window Title" will be displayed in the title bar of the main window. It's perfectly safe to change the name of the Rumplet application in the Finder. The background graphic isn't customizable, but may be in the future. > > Some of the other suggestions posted, notably auto-configuration and including the number of downloads of sent files, will require a corresponding update of the Rumpus server software. Expect to see these enhancements along with Rumpus 7.2. > > Keep the feedback coming... This version seems pretty stable and for people who do a lot of drop shipping, it's a pretty handy tool. Don't hesitate to give it a try. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jck at pannier.com Tue Nov 22 02:13:11 2011 From: jck at pannier.com (Kovach, Jon C.) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:13:11 +0000 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 In-Reply-To: <6DDF01A0-D6CD-41FB-B420-F1AF3708739B@printsolutions.lu> References: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate>, <6DDF01A0-D6CD-41FB-B420-F1AF3708739B@printsolutions.lu> Message-ID: <10nuumvp6d3y2c4n82mdrw9c.1321956776893@email.android.com> Yep! Exactly why I asked!! WILGE Marc I print solutions I wrote: having such a 'customer Rumplet' is a really good idea. A lot of customers even have problems using the http Site of Rumpus! regards Marc -- Marc Wilg? print solutions s.? r.l. 113, avenue Gaston Diderich L-1420 Luxembourg tel : (+352) 26 45 91 93 - 88 fax : (+352) 26 45 95 67 mobile : (+352) 621 155 335 www.printsolutions.lu ?We made the buttons on the screen look so good you?ll want to lick them.? Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011) On Nov 21, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Kovach, Jon C. wrote: Wondering... Can I give Rumplet to my customers, so they can have a desktop app to upload files to us more easily than logging onto the FTP site? Or does the application need to be internal to where the FTP site is hosted? If I can, what server address do I put? My external IP address? Also, and you may have answered this already, but is there a PC version in the works? Jon ________________________________________ From: John O'Fallon [john at maxum.com] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 4:24 PM To: Rumpus-Talk Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 Rumplet Beta testers, Rumplet 0.91 is now available here: http://www.maxum.com/Rumplet091.zip This version corrects the "slashes in the URL" problem, adds a note letting users know that they can drag additional files to send another shipment, and adds preferences so you can customize the name of the applet. The URL and text fixes are pretty obvious. To customize the applet name, choose "Preferences" from the "Rumplet" menu. The "App Name" will be used to replace the name "Rumplet" in the menu bar, and the "Main Window Title" will be displayed in the title bar of the main window. It's perfectly safe to change the name of the Rumplet application in the Finder. The background graphic isn't customizable, but may be in the future. Some of the other suggestions posted, notably auto-configuration and including the number of downloads of sent files, will require a corresponding update of the Rumpus server software. Expect to see these enhancements along with Rumpus 7.2. Keep the feedback coming... This version seems pretty stable and for people who do a lot of drop shipping, it's a pretty handy tool. Don't hesitate to give it a try. John _______________________________________________ Rumpus-Talk mailing list Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk _______________________________________________ Rumpus-Talk mailing list Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlebolt1 at gmail.com Tue Nov 22 06:00:44 2011 From: dlebolt1 at gmail.com (Dave Lebolt) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 06:00:44 -0800 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: John, I had Remore Admin working already on my home machine (see my original post ;-)); the IP address is already allowed. Rumplet still wasn?t able to connect. Dave > From: "John O'Fallon" > Subject: Re: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 Feedback > Date: November 20, 2011 11:38:09 AM PST > To: Rumpus-Talk > Reply-To: Rumpus-Talk > > > To use Rumplet, the IP address (or subnet) needs to be entered as an "Allowed Client" on the "Remote Admin" tab of the Network Settings window. If you are certain that you've entered your user account name and password correctly, check that list to make sure your address appears. > > As for the plain text display of the password field... During Beta testing, it's plain text to help diagnose connection issues. In Rumplet 1.0, it will indeed be made an obscured field. > > John > > On Nov 20, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Dave Lebolt wrote: > >> Unfortunately, on my end, couldn?t get things working. Entering my standard server credentials resulted in the ?Unable to Log In? message that says that Drop Shipments are not enabled for my User Account, even though Drop Shipments are enabled in my account. My server is co-located and I use Remote Admin from my local machine. From the Rumplet documentation it appears that all other settings are identical to Remote Admin. I also double-checked firewall setup on both ends. We use SSL; perhaps the problem lies there. Feel free to contact me to see what?s up... >> >> The one thing I would change in the app is that passwords for the user account are listed in plain text; it feels like passwords entered should be hidden in the standard way with bullets as you type. As an alt, a checkbox to allow the password to be shown when typing (as per some Apple system dialogs) can be useful. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john at maxum.com Tue Nov 22 07:50:01 2011 From: john at maxum.com (John O'Fallon) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:50:01 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] End-User Upload Applet In-Reply-To: <10nuumvp6d3y2c4n82mdrw9c.1321956776893@email.android.com> References: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate>, <6DDF01A0-D6CD-41FB-B420-F1AF3708739B@printsolutions.lu> <10nuumvp6d3y2c4n82mdrw9c.1321956776893@email.android.com> Message-ID: <8D2F64D2-4CA1-4335-99ED-878F379F207E@maxum.com> An applet that would allow simple drag & drop uploads to your Rumpus server is a possibility. This would be a good solution in many cases, but does have drawbacks. Most importantly, running custom software on client computers opens up a ton of security, compatibility and support issues. A custom upload applet would need to be developed and support various versions of Windows and Mac OS X, and incremental updates, fixes and improvements would need to be managed carefully. Use of a Web app like Rumpus solves a lot of these problems. Clients do have to go to a browser and complete a login, but there are a lot of benefits. A single interface can be created for Windows, Mac OS X, and even mobile clients. New versions of the interface are automatically deployed at the client. The interface is insulated from system problems like privileges, viruses and hardware issues. Users can connect from different computers without re-installing software. The most problematic issues with deploying software can be well controlled on your own network and on your own computers, so Rumplet makes sense for local use. But installing and supporting software on remote computers you don't have direct control over is another matter. Right now, the focus is on improving the user experience in the Web app. For example, Rumpus 7 includes the "remember me on this computer" option, simplifying login. Rumpus 7.2 will include HTML 5 drag and drop of files, again achieving a simplified interface while maintaining the benefits of running a the browser. It won't be possible to make a browser interface that is as simple, flexible and customizable as a dedicated applet run on the client computer, so a custom applet remains a possibility. But the immediate goal is to get as close as possible to the ideal user experience with the Web interface. John From jck at pannier.com Tue Nov 22 07:59:20 2011 From: jck at pannier.com (Kovach, Jon C.) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:59:20 +0000 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] End-User Upload Applet In-Reply-To: <8D2F64D2-4CA1-4335-99ED-878F379F207E@maxum.com> References: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate>, <6DDF01A0-D6CD-41FB-B420-F1AF3708739B@printsolutions.lu> <10nuumvp6d3y2c4n82mdrw9c.1321956776893@email.android.com>, <8D2F64D2-4CA1-4335-99ED-878F379F207E@maxum.com> Message-ID: <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81974279A@Mail.pannier.corporate> Well, when you put it like that!!! Seriously, though, glad you wrote all that out. After reading this, I see all the drawbacks, and I change my vote. I'd much rather have you focus your efforts on the web application. Drag and drop is a big thing for me - if customers could use this, I'd have an easier time getting them to use it. Single file selection (Internet Explorer) is a bummer. And the drag and drop never seems to work for anyone. My two cents. Jon ________________________________________ From: John O'Fallon [john at maxum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM To: Rumpus-Talk Subject: [Rumpus-talk] End-User Upload Applet An applet that would allow simple drag & drop uploads to your Rumpus server is a possibility. This would be a good solution in many cases, but does have drawbacks. Most importantly, running custom software on client computers opens up a ton of security, compatibility and support issues. A custom upload applet would need to be developed and support various versions of Windows and Mac OS X, and incremental updates, fixes and improvements would need to be managed carefully. Use of a Web app like Rumpus solves a lot of these problems. Clients do have to go to a browser and complete a login, but there are a lot of benefits. A single interface can be created for Windows, Mac OS X, and even mobile clients. New versions of the interface are automatically deployed at the client. The interface is insulated from system problems like privileges, viruses and hardware issues. Users can connect from different computers without re-installing software. The most problematic issues with deploying software can be well controlled on your own network and on your own computers, so Rumplet makes sense for local use. But installing and supporting software on remote computers you don't have direct control over is another matter. Right now, the focus is on improving the user experience in the Web app. For example, Rumpus 7 includes the "remember me on this computer" option, simplifying login. Rumpus 7.2 will include HTML 5 drag and drop of files, again achieving a simplified interface while maintaining the benefits of running a the browser. It won't be possible to make a browser interface that is as simple, flexible and customizable as a dedicated applet run on the client computer, so a custom applet remains a possibility. But the immediate goal is to get as close as possible to the ideal user experience with the Web interface. John _______________________________________________ Rumpus-Talk mailing list Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk From holgi at justmail.de Tue Nov 22 09:42:44 2011 From: holgi at justmail.de (holgi at justmail.de) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:42:44 +0100 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] End-User Upload Applet In-Reply-To: <8D2F64D2-4CA1-4335-99ED-878F379F207E@maxum.com> References: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate>, <6DDF01A0-D6CD-41FB-B420-F1AF3708739B@printsolutions.lu> <10nuumvp6d3y2c4n82mdrw9c.1321956776893@email.android.com> <8D2F64D2-4CA1-4335-99ED-878F379F207E@maxum.com> Message-ID: <0FA7426F-4315-4809-A1DA-D40D36582359@justmail.de> Hi John, hi rumpus folks I absolutely agree with you, John. The easy to manage web interface is the real strength of rumpus, and the customer needs nothing more than a browser... Our customers now have made over 50000 uploads with the webinterface of rumpus. I don't know how we could done without rumpus... And, thanks to the scripting function that I use extensive, all after the upload could be automated... Thanks for this to you and your employees, John! Holger Am 22.11.2011 um 16:50 schrieb John O'Fallon: > An applet that would allow simple drag & drop uploads to your Rumpus server is a possibility. This would be a good solution in many cases, but does have drawbacks. > > Most importantly, running custom software on client computers opens up a ton of security, compatibility and support issues. A custom upload applet would need to be developed and support various versions of Windows and Mac OS X, and incremental updates, fixes and improvements would need to be managed carefully. > > Use of a Web app like Rumpus solves a lot of these problems. Clients do have to go to a browser and complete a login, but there are a lot of benefits. A single interface can be created for Windows, Mac OS X, and even mobile clients. New versions of the interface are automatically deployed at the client. The interface is insulated from system problems like privileges, viruses and hardware issues. Users can connect from different computers without re-installing software. > > The most problematic issues with deploying software can be well controlled on your own network and on your own computers, so Rumplet makes sense for local use. But installing and supporting software on remote computers you don't have direct control over is another matter. > > Right now, the focus is on improving the user experience in the Web app. For example, Rumpus 7 includes the "remember me on this computer" option, simplifying login. Rumpus 7.2 will include HTML 5 drag and drop of files, again achieving a simplified interface while maintaining the benefits of running a the browser. > > It won't be possible to make a browser interface that is as simple, flexible and customizable as a dedicated applet run on the client computer, so a custom applet remains a possibility. But the immediate goal is to get as close as possible to the ideal user experience with the Web interface. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk > > From aabeyta at sundancepress.com Tue Nov 22 10:17:48 2011 From: aabeyta at sundancepress.com (Antonio Abeyta) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:17:48 -0700 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 In-Reply-To: <8D2F64D2-4CA1-4335-99ED-878F379F207E@maxum.com> References: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate>, <6DDF01A0-D6CD-41FB-B420-F1AF3708739B@printsolutions.lu> <10nuumvp6d3y2c4n82mdrw9c.1321956776893@email.android.com> <8D2F64D2-4CA1-4335-99ED-878F379F207E@maxum.com> Message-ID: <50C7F7B2-0A61-456D-81EA-7678E7FF0B14@sundancepress.com> John - I assume the Rumplet app isn't meant to replace the FileWatch app - will you continue to work on it as well? I like the Rumplet app, but honestly for our local users' use, it doesn't do anything that FileWatch doesn't, plus FileWatch has the other added benefits that they like (more control over which account files go to - oh, and sitting and tapping their fingers as the upload progress bar advances...). The most common request I hear is to be able to drag & drop multiple files and/or entire folders from the file list. That said, thanks for all the work so far - I recommend Rumpus to other admins anytime and every time I can! Antonio On Nov 22, 2011, at 8:50 AM, John O'Fallon wrote: > An applet that would allow simple drag & drop uploads to your Rumpus server is a possibility. This would be a good solution in many cases, but does have drawbacks. > > Most importantly, running custom software on client computers opens up a ton of security, compatibility and support issues. A custom upload applet would need to be developed and support various versions of Windows and Mac OS X, and incremental updates, fixes and improvements would need to be managed carefully. > > Use of a Web app like Rumpus solves a lot of these problems. Clients do have to go to a browser and complete a login, but there are a lot of benefits. A single interface can be created for Windows, Mac OS X, and even mobile clients. New versions of the interface are automatically deployed at the client. The interface is insulated from system problems like privileges, viruses and hardware issues. Users can connect from different computers without re-installing software. > > The most problematic issues with deploying software can be well controlled on your own network and on your own computers, so Rumplet makes sense for local use. But installing and supporting software on remote computers you don't have direct control over is another matter. > > Right now, the focus is on improving the user experience in the Web app. For example, Rumpus 7 includes the "remember me on this computer" option, simplifying login. Rumpus 7.2 will include HTML 5 drag and drop of files, again achieving a simplified interface while maintaining the benefits of running a the browser. > > It won't be possible to make a browser interface that is as simple, flexible and customizable as a dedicated applet run on the client computer, so a custom applet remains a possibility. But the immediate goal is to get as close as possible to the ideal user experience with the Web interface. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk From john at maxum.com Tue Nov 22 10:35:11 2011 From: john at maxum.com (John O'Fallon) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 12:35:11 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 In-Reply-To: <50C7F7B2-0A61-456D-81EA-7678E7FF0B14@sundancepress.com> References: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate>, <6DDF01A0-D6CD-41FB-B420-F1AF3708739B@printsolutions.lu> <10nuumvp6d3y2c4n82mdrw9c.1321956776893@email.android.com> <8D2F64D2-4CA1-4335-99ED-878F379F207E@maxum.com> <50C7F7B2-0A61-456D-81EA-7678E7FF0B14@sundancepress.com> Message-ID: You're right, Rumplet is really just a piece of FileWatch. In a lot of cases, the feedback I was getting was that FileWatch was too much, and that a smaller app would actually be preferable even if it offers less functionality. FileWatch is still supported and under development. The answer might eventually be to merge the 2 so that the default behavior would be that of the smaller Rumplet, but the full FileWatch capability would be easily accessible. FileWatch suffers from the problems I described earlier... It's not cross platform, not mobile and has to be maintained and distributed on each workstation. Virtually all of the FileWatch functionality can be done as a Web app (complete with drag & drop), so that's something you can expect to see in the not-too-distant future, too. John On Nov 22, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Antonio Abeyta wrote: > John - I assume the Rumplet app isn't meant to replace the FileWatch app - will you continue to work on it as well? I like the Rumplet app, but honestly for our local users' use, it doesn't do anything that FileWatch doesn't, plus FileWatch has the other added benefits that they like (more control over which account files go to - oh, and sitting and tapping their fingers as the upload progress bar advances...). The most common request I hear is to be able to drag & drop multiple files and/or entire folders from the file list. > > That said, thanks for all the work so far - I recommend Rumpus to other admins anytime and every time I can! From aabeyta at sundancepress.com Wed Nov 23 12:12:58 2011 From: aabeyta at sundancepress.com (Antonio Abeyta) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:12:58 -0700 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 In-Reply-To: References: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate>, <6DDF01A0-D6CD-41FB-B420-F1AF3708739B@printsolutions.lu> <10nuumvp6d3y2c4n82mdrw9c.1321956776893@email.android.com> <8D2F64D2-4CA1-4335-99ED-878F379F207E@maxum.com> <50C7F7B2-0A61-456D-81EA-7678E7FF0B14@sundancepress.com> Message-ID: <77395AA0-C9B3-42D1-B9A1-56F9A0A21402@sundancepress.com> Got it - thanks John. Our users have adapted to FileWatch being MacOS only, and I don't mind the maintenance, but I can see how in a large environment it could get tedious. Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but if most of the functionality can be done via web app, would it be possible to build (the option of) that functionality into the web interface itself? Sort of like how I can make certain user accounts "admins" and grant them the ability to view server stats, create accounts, etc. That way they could just stay logged into their account during the day (much like they do webmail or something) and still have drag/drop, dropship & filewatch-y access via their own authentication. On Nov 22, 2011, at 11:35 AM, John O'Fallon wrote: > You're right, Rumplet is really just a piece of FileWatch. In a lot of cases, the feedback I was getting was that FileWatch was too much, and that a smaller app would actually be preferable even if it offers less functionality. > > FileWatch is still supported and under development. The answer might eventually be to merge the 2 so that the default behavior would be that of the smaller Rumplet, but the full FileWatch capability would be easily accessible. > > FileWatch suffers from the problems I described earlier... It's not cross platform, not mobile and has to be maintained and distributed on each workstation. Virtually all of the FileWatch functionality can be done as a Web app (complete with drag & drop), so that's something you can expect to see in the not-too-distant future, too. > > John > > On Nov 22, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Antonio Abeyta wrote: > >> John - I assume the Rumplet app isn't meant to replace the FileWatch app - will you continue to work on it as well? I like the Rumplet app, but honestly for our local users' use, it doesn't do anything that FileWatch doesn't, plus FileWatch has the other added benefits that they like (more control over which account files go to - oh, and sitting and tapping their fingers as the upload progress bar advances...). The most common request I hear is to be able to drag & drop multiple files and/or entire folders from the file list. >> >> That said, thanks for all the work so far - I recommend Rumpus to other admins anytime and every time I can! > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk From john at maxum.com Wed Nov 23 12:21:32 2011 From: john at maxum.com (John O'Fallon) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:21:32 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 In-Reply-To: <77395AA0-C9B3-42D1-B9A1-56F9A0A21402@sundancepress.com> References: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate>, <6DDF01A0-D6CD-41FB-B420-F1AF3708739B@printsolutions.lu> <10nuumvp6d3y2c4n82mdrw9c.1321956776893@email.android.com> <8D2F64D2-4CA1-4335-99ED-878F379F207E@maxum.com> <50C7F7B2-0A61-456D-81EA-7678E7FF0B14@sundancepress.com> <77395AA0-C9B3-42D1-B9A1-56F9A0A21402@sundancepress.com> Message-ID: Yes, that's exactly what I mean. For the next version of Rumpus, the plan is to include "FileWatch" in the Web interface for administrators. That way, users will have FileWatch functions on a Mac, PC, iPad or Android device, with no special software to install and accessible from any device with a browser. John On Nov 23, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Antonio Abeyta wrote: > Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but if most of the functionality can be done via web app, would it be possible to build (the option of) that functionality into the web interface itself? From matt at creativeimages.com Wed Nov 23 12:31:30 2011 From: matt at creativeimages.com (Matt Gerard) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:31:30 -0600 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 In-Reply-To: References: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate>, <6DDF01A0-D6CD-41FB-B420-F1AF3708739B@printsolutions.lu> <10nuumvp6d3y2c4n82mdrw9c.1321956776893@email.android.com> <8D2F64D2-4CA1-4335-99ED-878F379F207E@maxum.com> <50C7F7B2-0A61-456D-81EA-7678E7FF0B14@sundancepress.com> <77395AA0-C9B3-42D1-B9A1-56F9A0A21402@sundancepress.com> Message-ID: <7DF55E31-AC99-46BA-84A0-7925E1CBF1C3@creativeimages.com> +1 on this idea. Awesome. Maybe I can use this as an excuse to get the bossman to cough up for an iPad for my "Administration Duties"! Matt Gerard Creative Images 953 Westgate Drive #105 St. Paul, MN 55114 matt at creativeimages.com Office-651-917-5422 On Nov 23, 2011, at 2:21 PM, John O'Fallon wrote: > Yes, that's exactly what I mean. For the next version of Rumpus, the plan is to include "FileWatch" in the Web interface for administrators. That way, users will have FileWatch functions on a Mac, PC, iPad or Android device, with no special software to install and accessible from any device with a browser. > > John > > On Nov 23, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Antonio Abeyta wrote: > >> Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but if most of the functionality can be done via web app, would it be possible to build (the option of) that functionality into the web interface itself? > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aabeyta at sundancepress.com Wed Nov 23 12:40:56 2011 From: aabeyta at sundancepress.com (Antonio Abeyta) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:40:56 -0700 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 In-Reply-To: References: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> <6DCA17479C93DF47B1AA98EC71751EC81973FF98@Mail.pannier.corporate>, <6DDF01A0-D6CD-41FB-B420-F1AF3708739B@printsolutions.lu> <10nuumvp6d3y2c4n82mdrw9c.1321956776893@email.android.com> <8D2F64D2-4CA1-4335-99ED-878F379F207E@maxum.com> <50C7F7B2-0A61-456D-81EA-7678E7FF0B14@sundancepress.com> <77395AA0-C9B3-42D1-B9A1-56F9A0A21402@sundancepress.com> Message-ID: Ah - you're miles ahead of me! Sounds awesome, can't wait! On Nov 23, 2011, at 1:21 PM, John O'Fallon wrote: > Yes, that's exactly what I mean. For the next version of Rumpus, the plan is to include "FileWatch" in the Web interface for administrators. That way, users will have FileWatch functions on a Mac, PC, iPad or Android device, with no special software to install and accessible from any device with a browser. > > John > > On Nov 23, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Antonio Abeyta wrote: > >> Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but if most of the functionality can be done via web app, would it be possible to build (the option of) that functionality into the web interface itself? > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumpus-Talk mailing list > Rumpus-Talk at maxum.com > http://lists.maxum.com/mailman/listinfo/rumpus-talk From matthew at worldaccent.com Fri Nov 25 07:28:05 2011 From: matthew at worldaccent.com (Matthew Wallis) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:28:05 +0000 Subject: [Rumpus-talk] Rumplet 0.91 In-Reply-To: <92276C7C-1A9E-45F6-8352-69671C48273B@maxum.com> Message-ID: I'm trying Rumplet 0.91 on an Intel Mac with OSX.5.8 and it doesn't appear to be working. If you drag a file, it says tranferring the file to the server, but never actually does it. Matthew Wallis